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Alexander minific #5
Title: Alone (1/2)
Author: [info]pseudonihilist
Fandom: Alexander the Great
Pairing: Alexander/Hephaistion, Alexander/Bagoas implied
Rating: PG
Summary: After Alexander forces Hephaistion to renounce his quarrel with Eumenes on pain of death, they meet in Hephaistion’s tent to discuss things.
A/N: Based on Mary Renault’s account of events in her excellent novel, The Persian Boy, from which the quote at the beginning is taken. Part 1 of the bitchslap!fic. Bunny provided by [info]pink_pants, for whom this fic is written. I sincerely hope that it isn’t awful, I honestly can’t tell :( Oh, and I chose Pella because that’s where Hephaistion was born, right? Gah. I need to go read The Nature of Alexander again.
Disclaimer: Text of TPB belongs to Mary Renault, and Alexander and Hephaistion belong to themselves. This is fiction, and I sincerely apologise for any inaccuracies, anachronisms, or just plain bad writing contained herein. This didn’t come out at all the way I intended it to.
Feedback: Would be fanatically appreciated.



"I thought [Alexander] had just been afraid of their getting drunk and starting again. But he loitered in his tent instead of coming to bed; then put a dark cloak on and went out. I saw him throw a fold about his head; he didn't want it seen where he was going, though he must have known I'd guess.

He was not very long away. They must have patched it up, after a fashion; one could tell that after. But if it had gone as he wished, he'd not have finished the night as he did with me."
- Bagoas, in The Persian Boy

***

There had been the desert, when Hephaistion had felt the sand in his throat, had felt his very life force floating away from him in the filmy, blurry waves of heat rising from every surface under the ferocity of the sun's rays, had smelled his own putrid humanity leave his body as its essence mingled with the stink of his horse, while it lived. There had been the mountains, where, instead of drawing his life away, death had settled in his body, numbing his extremities until he felt leaden, dulling his consciousness with a bitter ice that made him forget how to move, how to manifest his own vitality. There had been the pain of wounds so unbearable that he forgot his pride, the hunger, which made him feel his life so acutely that he wished intensely for its end, and the sickness, which reduced him to the basest, weakest creature, devoid of everything human.

None of these things, however, could battle Alexander and win. He defied death itself, and inspired those who loved him to do the same. Hephaistion remembered his will to live, to survive, to overcome, because of Alexander. Every moment alive meant one more moment lived for Alexander; Hephaistion drew his very breath from the love within him for the man whom some called a god.

But when the god has turned his back, it is harder to keep faith. Hephaistion felt the heat, not of his love, but of his anger, and it was scorching - more harsh than the most brutal ray of the sun, sharper than the coldest wind, more agonising than the tenth day of hunger.

He suffered alone.

His dinner with Alexander and Eumenes had been tortuous. The food was as ash in his mouth, the wine stale and sour, and though he watched their lips move, all he could hear was the coldness in Alexander's voice when he had said, "Hephaistion, I made you what you are. And not for this."

Afterward, he had felt Alexander's hand on his shoulder, but he shrugged it off, being tired of the pretence he had kept up all day, since the quarrel, for Alexander and Alexander only.

He sat in his own tent, now, head cradled in his hands, wrenching sobs being torn from his gut, sounds he had not made even in the moments of blackest despair. He had not truly known despair, he now realised, because he had never been alone. Not in the desert, nor on the mountains, nor in any delerium of sickness or hunger. There had always been Alexander, whom he would deny nothing, and who would never deny him. Everything and anything had been bearable, because Alexander had been with him. Now he stood on a battle field, alone, facing the most terrible enemy of all, the one who knew all his weaknesses, the one who held his heart in the palm of his hand.

Suddenly he heard the muted rustle of his tent flap being pulled aside, and there stood a figure. Even with the fold about his head Hephaistion recognised his lord in the dim lamplight.

"You weep," Alexander said, doffing the cloth and the cloak.

"Yes, I weep," Hephaistion answered, perversely pleased at the savagery in his voice. "Why do you remove your cloak? Surely you do not mean to stay."

Alexander merely looked at him, the muscle in his jaw working steadily, and was silent.

"I do not know why you have come," Hephaistion continued, his voice going lower.

Alexander looked fierce. "Do you know me so little, then, after all these years? A lifetime, Hephaistion!"

Hephaistion could not bring himself to hold Alexander’s gaze. "Yes, I know, you can proclaim for all to hear that you made me what I am. Yet you forget how much I have made you."

The grey eyes flashed at that. "Without you, I would still be king. What would you be without me, Hephaistion?"

Hephaistion kept his head down and, for once, spoke without weighing the consequences. "I would have a home in Pella, a wife, many children, perhaps. I would not have the nightmares of men dying terrible deaths by my spear, or the many scars that still give me pain, though they healed long ago, all so that you could conquer the world and see its end. I would not be hated and despised by those who seek to gain influence with you. I would not be so dependent on your favour that I cease to know whether I follow your orders out of love or fear. I might be – content."

The silence was deafening before Alexander spoke. "And that is what you want! Very well, Hephaistion – "

"I did not say – "

"You dare to interrupt your king!"

Their eyes locked in the fiercest battle either had ever fought, and Hephaistion was oblivious to all but Alexander’s molten anger.

"Yes, I dare!" he cried, finally. "I dare because when you are my king, I am nothing more to you than your precious loyal Krateros, or that barbarous Eumenes, or worse, your Bagoas – "

"Tread with care, Hephaistion, or by the gods, I will – "

"Bagoas!" Hephaistion repeated bitterly, remembering the desert, and how much it had cost him not to leave the boy behind. And Alexander, it seemed, was incapable of making a similar sacrifice for him. "Mother of Zeus, it is a pretty state of things when I make way for a eunuch. I don’t know why I am surprised that you would make me do the same for such as Eumenes."

Before he even finished Alexander had started forward and grasped his hair with one hand, forcing his head back and looking down at him, his expression murderous. Well, Hephaistion thought. Let him kill me in this rage, and then he may understand half the passion with which I have always touched him.

But as quickly as it had come, the rage seemed to burn out of a sudden, and Alexander sank to his knees on the floor between Hephaistion’s legs, his hands resting at Hephaistion's waist.

"When did we come to this?" he whispered dully.

Hephaistion had no answer, yet he dared to reach out and rest his hand on Alexander’s golden head.

"I have tried so many times, Hephaistion," Alexander continued. "I have tried to make you understand. You are everything to me, you must know that."

Hephaistion’s voice was low. "How am I to know, after today? What am I, if I cannot have that from you which no one else has?"

Alexander looked up. "Am I not here?" He pushed his head gently into Hephaistion’s broad hand, which had begun to stroke the curls softly. "It is not Eumenes, nor Bagoas, whom I have come to. It is you." He closed his eyes. "You say you are not content – "

"I did not mean – "

"You did. I do not blame you for feeling thus. Believe me, Hephaistion, I know of the sacrifices you have made for me. No one could be more grateful than I. But do you not see that, in the eyes of the world, and especially such as Eumenes, I give you more than all the rest combined? Could I, should I be unfair to them, for your sake alone?"

Hephaistion could only tighten his grip on Alexander's shoulder, not trusting himself to speak. He could only listen to the voice of the one he adored, and try feel every word as deeply as he might.

"It is here, when we are alone, that what I say to you matters most. You are right, I cannot be the king in this tent, with you. I am – your boy," he said simply. "And I swear to you now, that you have me, all of me. You conquer me when I am at my strongest, and rebuild me when I am at my weakest. What would I do without you? Yet such is my life, that I must hide the fact that this king, this leader of the greatest army in the world, is a slave to you. So go, Hephaistion. Though I am selfish, I can make this sacrifice. Return to Pella, and begin that life which will make you happy, however much it pains me to see you go. Have the sons you wish for, and live a long life of prosperity and contentment."

Hephaistion felt the wetness of tears at his knee, where Alexander had rested his cheek. "I do not desire contentment. I would have followed you to the very ends of the earth; you know it well."

At that, Alexander lifted his head and looked up at Hephaistion, his cheeks tear-stained. "Then do not leave me," he choked. "You know I could not live without you."

Hephaistion pulled up on Alexander's shoulders, so that they were both standing. "I will never leave you. You could strip away all my clothes and honours, and I would still follow you, a lonely beggar dressed in rags at the end of the line."

Alexander clung to him, then, burying his face in Hephaistion's neck. "Forgive me, my love. I had to do it."

"I know," Hephaistion whispered. In my mind, I know. It is my heart that doubts. But the words remained unspoken.

Thus, when Alexander began to kiss him, he pulled away.

"I cannot be content with only part of you. Not tonight."

The hand at his chest stilled. "I have just explained, surely you know – "

"I know you will leave me, afterward, and I know who is waiting for you."

Alexander's hands dropped to his sides, and he stepped back, his expression unreadable. "Very well." He turned, picking up his cloak, and draped it around himself. "Good night, Hephaistion," he said softly, and turned to leave.

After he was gone, Hephaistion still sat on the edge of the bed, looking at the tent flap. There would be no sleep for him that night, nor any Persian boys to ease his pain.

***
to be continued, hopefully.

ETA: Continued in Legend



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[info]daegaer
2004-06-23 03:56 am UTC (link)
This is very nice! Poor Hephaistion's self-destruction of the reconciliation scene is all too believable.

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[info]pseudonihilist
2004-06-23 08:36 pm UTC (link)
Thank you so much for reading and commenting :)

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[info]florachan
2004-06-23 05:14 am UTC (link)
Oh my God....

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

O_____o

This is absolutely beautiful, heartbreaking, so intense to an almost unbearable level...
You know, I've always wondered how Hephaistion could have reacted to Alexander's very HARSCH words after his quarrel with Eumenes, and the exchange between him and Alexander, that night...

I've always felt Hephaistion didn't ABSOLUTELY deserve such a reprimend, and I have to admit that Alexander's behaviour in "the persian boy", sometimes really got me quite annoyed(and this part is one of those cases...)
The way you depicted Hephaistion's feelings, the anger, the pain, the sorrow, his wounded pride and wounded love is stunning...
Then Alexander's reaction is hearthbreaking...At first pretending he could let him go, but then begging him to stay...

Among your (wonderful) stories this is the one which moved me the most...
I'm absolutely struck in the deep...
I hope I have been able to express myself, I doubt it because my English is awful(I'm sorry...^^), but you really made my heart bleed...

Wonderful, really wonderful...

Flora

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[info]pseudonihilist
2004-06-23 08:44 pm UTC (link)
wow, Flora, I'm so glad you liked this piece. I think, the more I write of this pairing, the more doubtful I get about how consistent i am being to both Renault's canon and the canon of other historians. As you know, i love Hephaistion very much, and as such i feel like his pain is more tangible to me than Alexander's or Bagoas's, so it means a lot to me that you were able to see so many of Hephaistion's feelings in this fic.

And your English seems pretty good to me :)

thank you so much for reading and commenting! <3

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(no subject) - [info]florachan, 2004-06-24 06:33 am UTC
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[info]japanpeterpan
2004-06-23 06:03 am UTC (link)
Holy! Guh! And no happy ending! Friction galore!
I, for one, am very content ^___^
Let him kill me in this rage, and then he may understand half the passion with which I have always touched him.
Their love is so violent! My innards shiver.

And we finally get to see Alexander standing his ground. Wow, he even leaves at the end. Pauvre Hephaistion! I don't need Fire from Heaven to sympathize with him here.

Oh gods, would write so much more, if I weren't so late already...
Just one more thing-- this things was skimpier on descriptions than your previous efforts, but so much dialogue... guh. /dialogue whore

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[info]pseudonihilist
2004-06-23 08:47 pm UTC (link)
you are always content with other people's unhappiness, n'est-ce pas? such is your UNQUENCHABLE SADISM.

and can i just express my incredible honour at having made your innards "shiver"? no mean feat. i am very proud.

<3, my loyal reader. your feedback means a lot to me. :)

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[info]teza
2004-06-23 11:51 am UTC (link)
First off, I feel like I need a cigarette after that, inner angst whore most deliciously satisfied in a thorough manner.

Beautifully in keeping with the characterizations of the Renault novels. The dialog was tight, kept moving, and was disgustingly (and I mean that in the most delicious way possible) moving.

The switch from Alexander the King to just Alexander was interesting, particularly as Hephaestion's place did differ in Alexander's world depending on just which part Alexander was playing. I loved seeing Hephaestion pissy, angsty, but pushing back and snapping. Angry -- but not sitting down about it. They are both warriors, after all.

And I like that last line. Ooooh, TPB makes me so mad. Boo! Hiss! Spit! Bagoas Bad! Alexander never realized what he had! Boo! Hiss!

I better stop before I need to be medicated. XD

One note! About Hephaestion's past: There's no real information about it, but everything I could say, she says better -- and I'd just be quoting her anyway. The entire page is a lovely source for all things Hephaestion.

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[info]pseudonihilist
2004-06-23 08:54 pm UTC (link)
i'm so glad you found this in synch with Renault's novels; when writing fanfic i can aspire to nothing higher :) one of the things i love about hephaistion and alexander's relationship is the fact that, really, it is the only relationship in alexander's life where he doesn't hold himself entirely above the other person, simply because, though Hephaistion worships him, he knows when to stand his ground, and that he doesn't always, or ever, have to be the servile, accomodating kiss-up that everyone thinks he is.

and yeah, i love bagoas, but hroom, you know? :D

thanks so much for the link!! i adore hephaistion, it will be fantastic to learn more about him...

i'm very glad you enjoyed this found this angst-worthy (omg *lights up with you*). thank you for reading and taking the time to comment :)

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website - [info]mieza, 2004-06-24 12:45 am UTC
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[info]brightest_blue
2004-06-23 12:11 pm UTC (link)
*dries tears*

Well, Hephaistion thought. Let him kill me in this rage, and then he may understand half the passion with which I have always touched him.

Oh yes, please! I mean, don't kill Hephaistion, but make Alexander understand somehow.

"I know," Hephaistion whispered. In my mind, I know. It is my heart that doubts. But the words remained unspoken.

*weeps some more*

After he was gone, Hephaistion still sat on the edge of the bed, looking at the tent flap. There would be no sleep for him that night, nor any Persian boys to ease his pain.

Argh. Generally, I like Bagoas, but sometimes, he's just in the way!

Oh, I do hope you continue this!

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[info]pseudonihilist
2004-06-23 08:57 pm UTC (link)
Bagoas does seem to be in the way a lot :( and the problem is, i can't hate him for it, which makes things all the more aggravating for Hephaistion.

thanks so much for reading and commenting! i will be continuing it shortly, i hope :)

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[info]furius
2004-06-23 04:22 pm UTC (link)
Sometimes, I wish Hephaistion and Alexander are happier. All that sacrifice and tragedy. It hurts, but everything's more beautiful that way, too. It's agonising irony.

It's a brilliant fic and fits with Renault verse startling well. It certainly explains the one line I always disliked Alexander for uttering.

I side with Hephaistion. Alexander's destroying everything for his ambition it seems. I feel like thwacking him, except Hephaistion would never allow it of course.

Let him kill me in this rage, and then he may understand half the passion with which I have always touched him.

You're absolutely brilliant.

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[info]pseudonihilist
2004-06-23 09:03 pm UTC (link)
it's an irony i totally sympathise with. sometimes i wonder if it's rather sadistic of me to derive such satisfaction, painful though it is, from their angst.

i side with Hephaistion too; i mean, alexander does little things for hephaistion in the book, but they seem almost like rewards, token gestures, until, of course, hephaistion dies, and that's one of the reasons i started writing fanfic, is to explicate, at least for myself, that alexander loves hephaistion just as much, if not more, than he is loved himself.

thank you so much for reading, and your incredibly kind words! i am so glad you liked this.

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[info]arysteia
2004-06-23 10:18 pm UTC (link)
Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!

*dances*

*twirls*

I love it!

And yet it's so different from the way I wrote this scene! Both times! That's one of the things I love most about fanfic, I think, the way you can just break it all down and explore every little facet of the scene, and how things worked out, or might have. Or might not have. If I didn't know how it all ends, you might have me seriously worried at this point...

*cries*

*just a little*

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[info]pseudonihilist
2004-06-24 05:09 pm UTC (link)
gah, lj is being a total dick, so i apologise if you get this twice.

I've no doubt your interpretation is so different, and that's why fanfic is such a great idea - we can read the things we love many, many times and get something new out of it. i can't wait to read your take. thanks for the feedback :)

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[info]pink_pants
2004-06-24 12:05 am UTC (link)
wow. you kill me, you really do. this is getting to the heart of it all without pulling some contrivance out of it to make it all "better." that's one of the things i most hate: a desire to whitewash the badness/mistakes/monster-side out of relationships/personality. We're not looking at a perfect picture of either of them; Hephaistion is a gaping maw of need, Alexander is unable to understand how to relate to others as an equal - ultimately he's 'just a man', right? their relationship here is full of that really uneven power dynamic which is always so deliciously exciting. i think they are both uncomfortable/unsure with when and how to wield the power they both have over the other. and that leads to this whole kerfuffle, and his lack of surety when going to Hephaisition is really telling, since he's barely ever presented that way in the Renault-verse.

it's so sad. when you are really sure of someone there is not this need to be shown that you are the most loved. Alexander had the power there, and he tries to use the love given to him as a weapon, though with how much self-awareness, we can't know. it's ironic tho, because Hephaistion does have some consciousness of the power that he holds over Alexander, with the threats to leave and all. so he knows, but he's not sure. "In my mind, I know. It is my heart that doubts. and also there's something implicit in the relationship which Alexander is never unsure of. That Hephaistion would never leave is almost a surity. He does a good job, here, tho, of reminding Alexander of what he could have had, that he's spent time thinking about it, wanting it?

Of course I fully identify with Hephaistion. Alexander is like, well – he doesn't really know what it's like being a person who is in love with him. He doesn't get it with Bagaos either, y'know. He doesn't get it with his mother or his father. He knows he is loved, but he doesn't really understand what that means, the carelessness of ignoring it, the pain. you could think of it as megalomania, but he's far too generous and sincerely loving of others for it to be that. but still, the blinders, or the willfull ignorance of the specificity of what is needed from him, rather than the general "i love you more than anyone."

But he also holds the self-imposed weight of the world on his shoulders, is everything to so many in his life.

What I'm trying to say, of course, is that your vision of this scene matches so perfectly with my interpretation of the dynamics. it makes me explode with inspiration and excitement, and all o' that. i really do hope you continue on with it. how do they get back to a place where this was all pre-verbal? do they ever? do they ever have makeup sex? (fade to black, of course...:-))

i hope you are doing okay, little miss pseudy. i miss your velma icons. you are so quiet...it makes me think you are up to something! plotting something. hmm!

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[info]pseudonihilist
2004-06-24 05:35 pm UTC (link)
wow. you understand these characters so completely, so comprehensively - your reading of renault so intuitive and insightful - everytime i read feedback from you you show me something new about renault's characters, the situations in which they find themselves, and just relationships in general, of any kind, that it's really like reading a very good fanfic. i mean, i find this comment so incredibly educational - and maybe it's no wonder i feel so much trepidation in posting, because if someone like you is interested in this pairing, someone so intelligent and insightful, who's thought about these characters - if not very MUCH, then certainly very WELL, it makes it all the more difficult to feel like i could possibly be writing something that would appeal.

which is a long way of saying that the fact that you enjoyed this piece really elates me. i wrote it for you, i want to reiterate that, and if you hadn't liked it (you would be honest, right?) it would have been, simply, tragic.

anyway, i learn from you and your comments, i really do. thanks for reading and commenting, as always - it really means a lot to me :)

and if i'm quiet it is unfortunately not because i'm planning anything, but because i'm skipping work to sleep all day and mope in a darkened room, during these beautiful summer days. *sigh* ;)

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(no subject) - [info]pink_pants, 2004-06-24 11:21 pm UTC

[info]_penthesileia_
2004-06-24 04:08 am UTC (link)
Great characterization, it fits in well with Renault. The complexity of Alexander and Heph's relationship is interesting; their roles as eromenos/erastes and king/subject can so easily come into conflict despite their long friendship, something too often ignored by fic writers.

I expecially love the parting scene, Hephaestion admitting that this time he cannot share Alexander. Can't wait for the next part :)

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[info]pseudonihilist
2004-06-24 05:38 pm UTC (link)
I'm so glad you felt it fitted well :) the different roles Alexander and Hephaistion play with each other has always been one of the things that really fascinated me and drew me to loving their relationship so much - more complex, in my humble, HUMBLE opinion, than his relationship with bagoas, as lovely as that is - so i'm very happy that some of those issues stood out for you here.

thank you so much for reading and taking the time to comment! :)

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[info]undertree33
2004-06-24 07:35 am UTC (link)
Wow. I'm a great fan of Mary Renault, and the Persian Boy, which turned me around on my stance on homosexuality.

But beyond that, this story in itself is...filling, for the want of a better word. It fills the heart, satisfies in that I've just been given a glimpse into the life of one of the greatest men who lived, and his closest companion. You bring them to life.

Wow.

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[info]pseudonihilist
2004-06-24 05:41 pm UTC (link)
Wow! it's always fascinating to hear about authors who change people's perspectives. if you don't mind telling, may i ask how she or her book did it?

and thank you so much for your kind words. Few comments are more cherished than ones like yours - these characters are so real to me, thanks to Renault, and if i could even echo that, very faintly, in these small fics, than i am very, very happy.

thanks so much for reading and commenting!

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[info]hephaestion
2004-06-25 01:38 pm UTC (link)
you wrote: He sat in his own tent, now, head cradled in his hands, wrenching sobs being torn from his gut, sounds he had not made even in the moments of blackest despair.
Suddenly he heard the muted rustle of his tent flap being pulled aside, and there stood a figure. Even with the fold about his head Hephaistion recognised his lord in the dim lamplight.

"You weep," Alexander said, doffing the cloth and the cloak.<<<<

I guess not all hearts are created equal. Maybe my gender is part to blame...?? I just couldn't get past this part without re=reading it and cringing every time. pretty hard to swallow. I can't remember if his reaction was part of the book's canon?

you wrote: Hephaistion could not bring himself to hold Alexander’s gaze. "Yes, I know, you can proclaim for all to hear that you made me what I am. Yet you forget how much I have made you."
>>>>>>>>

wOW...what a smack in the face. something that i think hephaestion knew better to ever do. i'm serious. Not that he was a sap...hardly...but a statement like that is hard to retract. I have a feeling Alexander as not happy for losing his patience with Hephaistion and Craterus (or Eumenes) - sources can't make up their mind on who the actual fight was with i believe) but their argument COULD have started the factions to get violent enough to cause bloodshed.

you wrote: Hephaistion kept his head down and, for once, spoke without weighing the consequences. "I would have a home in Pella, a wife, many children, perhaps. I would not have the nightmares of men dying terrible deaths by my spear, or the many scars that still give me pain, though they healed long ago, all so that you could conquer the world and see its end. I would not be hated and despised by those who seek to gain influence with you. I would not be so dependent on your favour that I cease to know whether I follow your orders out of love or fear. I might be – content." <<<<<<<<<<<

and then he also goes on to show alexander he's jealous of bagaos too??? good grief. hephaestion sounds like a cry baby fag...who doesn't deserve alexander - and whom alexander wouldn't have patience with either...i think the things you have him say to each other would have broken their hearts and relationship for good...i don't remember REnault ever moving Hephaistion away from Alexander's affections in any way...which made the lover's death all that more painful and a sure sign of the end being near for Alexander too.

Interesting story - but Hephaistion seems too OOC for me. But I always found that 'fight' a great premise for a story (which I started a week ago but haven't the time to finish yet) so I'm glad to see I'm not the only one writing a story abou tit.

Cheers and keep writing
Nicolas.





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[info]japanpeterpan
2004-06-26 09:37 am UTC (link)
I just couldn't get past this part without re=reading it and cringing every time. pretty hard to swallow. I can't remember if his reaction was part of the book's canon?
If you can't remember, why are you complaining? Greeks cried. Great Greeks cried. Achilles, Odysseus, and even great Alexander cried. I suspect it's less your gender than a realization that it's modern society that looks down on males shedding tears. While it's true that it is physiologically easier for women to cry, men did it to express great anguish. Alexander would not have seen Hephaistion as a 'crybaby fag' merely for shedding tears-- especially when his sentiments and reasons were as articulately and honestly expressed, as seen here.

wOW...what a smack in the face. something that i think hephaestion knew better to ever do. i'm serious. Not that he was a sap...hardly...but a statement like that is hard to retract.
Hmm... so NOW he's supposed to be a sap?... Or more like a rag for Alexander to wipe his feet on.
Hephaistion respects himself, and there is no question that Alexander valued self-respect in others. Hephaistion had reason to feel slighted, and Alexander, as you say yourself, knew this.

i don't remember REnault ever moving Hephaistion away from Alexander's affections in any way...
As a male, I'm surprised you don't see how having your boy enjoy himself with a boy of his own is inherently threatening, or at the very least likely to create a strain in their long-term relationship. Hephaistion is less doubtful of Alexander's love for him than offended that he is taken for granted.

And that is all.

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Re: Well... - [info]_penthesileia_, 2004-06-27 06:49 am UTC
Re: Well... - [info]pseudonihilist, 2004-06-27 10:04 am UTC
Re: Well... - [info]semyaza, 2004-06-27 11:01 am UTC

[info]florachan
2004-08-03 05:28 pm UTC (link)
Hello Pseudy...

excuse me if I jump in again, but it's been a while since you wrote this fic, and I'm really longing for part two...^_^

Are you going to write the sequel to your beautiful story????*glistening and puppy eyes!*
I'm really looking for it, I would like to see those two to finally make up à la "pseudy' style"!...^_^

Flora

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[info]pseudy
2004-08-04 07:09 pm UTC (link)
Hi Flora! i would very much like to, but things haven't quite been working out - there are some personal issues involved with the writing which have been BLOCKING me :/ but i hope i can get it together. i'm going away for a month so maybe i'll have more time to write! thanks so much for your interest, and i'm really glad you liked it enough to want to read more.

<3

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(no subject) - [info]florachan, 2004-08-05 04:31 am UTC

[info]xzanayu
2004-08-07 11:20 am UTC (link)
Cool. You should continue.

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[info]pseudy
2004-11-22 04:49 pm UTC (link)
how did i miss this comment?? so sorry, thanks for reading!! continued here :)

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In the "better late than never" category
[info]fantine_21
2004-10-17 02:36 pm UTC (link)
Through a round-about path, I have just now discovered that there are some excellent Alexandros/Hephaistion stories on LJ. This is one of the best. I hope you're able to finish it some time.

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Re: In the "better late than never" category
[info]pseudonihilist
2004-10-17 08:52 pm UTC (link)
wow, thank you so much! what a great compliment :) if you're interested i've written a few more. but that was more than enough of the irritating self-pimpage. and if you have recs of other good stories, i would love to hear about them...

thanks so much for reading and leaving a comment!

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Re: In the "better late than never" category - [info]fantine_21, 2004-10-18 04:48 pm UTC

[info]bagoasalexander
2004-11-21 11:10 am UTC (link)
(stunned expression) Holy...

Wow.

B

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[info]pseudy
2004-11-22 04:51 pm UTC (link)
*worried* is this good or bad? thanks for reading :)

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[info]miladyhawke
2004-11-22 12:04 am UTC (link)
Wow, Pseudy - that was wonderful, very rich with the language and emotion without being overdone. Your understanding of the many complexities and the depth of the relationship is beautiful and very touching. How did I miss this before? Off to read the sequel now, yay!

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[info]pseudy
2004-11-22 04:52 pm UTC (link)
thank you so much!! i always think i'm going overboard and being repetitive and stuff so. very reassuring. thank you for reading and commenting, and i'm really glad you enjoyed these :)

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[info]blueluthien
2004-11-23 04:18 pm UTC (link)
God, this is is so incredibly beautiful!!!

I have fallen in love with the Alexander/Hephaistion story and pairing very recently, then I started looking for fics about them.
I found yours, and I am overwhelmed.

It brought me to tears.

This is a fine piece of work, when it comes to style and form, and specially when it comes to emotion.

This is overflowing with feeling!

It moved me so deeply.

Thank you!

By the way, I friended you.
Hope you do not mind.

Much Love

~Ana

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[info]pseudy
2004-11-23 04:26 pm UTC (link)
thank you so much! i'm very honoured that this story could move you at all, though i think it has more to do with the innate beauty of these two characters than anything i could do :) so glad you enjoyed it, and of course i don't mind that you friend me! i will friend you back :) thanks again for reading and taking the time to comment!

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[info]hecates_wings
2004-11-25 06:59 am UTC (link)
Lovely!

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[info]pseudy
2004-11-26 07:49 pm UTC (link)
thank you :)

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[info]marauderthesn
2004-11-30 01:17 pm UTC (link)
Oh my God, I love this. It's wonderfully well-written. Really, I can't express how much I love this. Great job.

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[info]pseudonihilist
2004-11-30 06:20 pm UTC (link)
Thank you so much! I'm very glad you enjoyed it. and your icon makes me giggle in a big, manly way.

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[info]bad_luck
2004-12-01 01:01 am UTC (link)
Oh gods, that pained me. Beautifully written and you portray Hephaistion so wonderfully. I think I nearly cried.

Well done, well done.

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[info]pseudy
2004-12-01 04:14 pm UTC (link)
I've come to love Hephaistion so much and I'm so glad you enjoyed this representation of him. HIs pain seems so accessible, so universally *knowable*, which is why i had to write this, i suppose. Thank you so much for reading and commenting!

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[info]ethriel
2005-01-19 07:17 pm UTC (link)
wow, thats amazing, I love your characterisation of Hephaistion - just amazing!

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[info]pseudy
2005-01-20 05:25 pm UTC (link)
thank you so much! Hephaistion is my favourite character, so i'm glad the characterisation worked for you :)

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[info]annakas
2005-02-25 02:20 pm UTC (link)
Wow this was good.
You have really captured the situation with it's whole enormity.


Was paiful to read but very beautiful to see how Hephastion had finally enough and said the things that had been festering in his soul for a long time. Not that I like Alexander and Hephastion arguing but this one really cleared the air.

The ending had to be the best here though. How Hephastion forgave but still could't make himself share Alexander with anybody in that night. That really showed us that this was kind of a turning point in the relationship.

Now I am curious is the second part out somewhere or not?

p.s I hope you don't mind if I'll put it into my memories for further readings. I don't want to lose the fic.

annakas

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[info]pseudy
2005-03-03 07:29 am UTC (link)
Thank you for your lovely feedback! Hephaistion is certainly a fascinating character study, and the progression of their relationship is really heartrendingly beautiful, isn't it? the second part is here in my fic journal, [info]pseudy, and it's called "legend." there's a table of contents for all my fics at the top of the journal. thanks again for reading and commenting, and i don't mind at all if you put this in your memories, i'm just glad you liked it :)

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[info]devildoll
2005-09-08 04:24 pm UTC (link)
I've been working my way through the Mary Renault community, and that's how I got here.

This is a lovely piece. Heartbreaking, and it clearly shows why each of them acts as he does, which actually makes it even more painful, because they seem to have so few choices.

*sniffle*

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[info]pseudy
2005-09-09 01:05 am UTC (link)
thank you so much! it seems like the pairing itself is innately heartbreaking, which is also what makes them so lovely together in that painful way. so glad you liked this, thanks again for stopping by to read!

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[info]ta2d_angel
2007-09-04 09:27 pm UTC (link)
I read this a couple of years ago, then life happened, and I never got a chance to comment on it. This, and Legend, are my favorite Alexander/Hephaistion stories on the whole web. They are heartbreakingly beautiful, and exquisitely written. You made me feel as if I was a fly on the wall, privvy to a conversation that I was not entitled to. My heart broke and I sobbed for days after I read these stories. In fact, it was a long time before I could bring myself to read them again, but eventually, I did. I lost them for a while, but now that I have found them again, I will save them to my memories, and will read them over and over. I will also direct everyone I know to this site to read them as well, if that is alright with you. Thank you for sharing such haunting, realistic stories to light.

I guess that's all, I can't think of anything better to tell you about them.

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[info]pseudy
2007-09-05 06:01 am UTC (link)
Thank you very much, for reading them and remembering them and coming back to them! I didn't think anyone read these anymore and was thinking of taking them down, so it really means a lot that you took the time to tell me you liked them. and of course i don't mind if you link. I'm very glad you enjoyed, and thank you again :)

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